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Help repairing cork handle?

Postby pathfinder1 » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:24 am

I have a very old ST. Croix fly rod (8wt). I noticed, yesterday, while prepping for my evening fishing trip that the cork handle was split down both sides. It looks as if a, rather large, piece can or will fall off if something is not done.
My question to you guys is; what can be done? Can I fix it myself or do I need it “professionally” done?
Thanks for the help.
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Re: Help repairing cork handle?

Postby Plasticpirogue » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:45 am

IMO it needs to be professionally repaired. To fix it correctly, a rod shop would probably strip off the few guides on the butt section of the rod and then slide a pre-fab grip down the blank and epoxy it in place. They would then need to re-wrap the guides back into position. Sometimes they might employ a different solution; saw a pre-fab grip lengthwise and then epoxy those two halves in place, but that method would leave visible glue lines.

In either case, they would be completely replacing the current grip.
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Re: Help repairing cork handle?

Postby smalliesteve » Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:27 am

I read about a fix for this on another forum, havent tried it myself but here's how it went. (My thoughts are: try it yourself. If it doesn't turn out, you'll just have to take it to a rod builder which is what you would have had to do if you didn't try it yourself.)

carefully cut out the damaged portion of the cork. This is the most dangerous part as you could damage the blank if you're not careful. I would start at the middle and pull out chunks of cork with a pliers. Work your way towards the ends of the damaged area and then cut the edges of the cork clean and straight. Sand off the remaining cork and epoxy from the exposed section of the blank

You'll need to get your cork rings you're using to fix and measure to see how long a section you want to replace. In a perfect world you could cut the damaged part of the handle at the glue lines between the rings. This might work, but if the new rings aren't exactly the same thickness as the old rings your length will be off. So you may have to cut one end of the repair section in the middle of a ring which could be a pain.

Turn the new rings down until they are slightly over-sized. Then ream them until the holes in the center of the ring will fit over the exposed portion of blank. You can't slide them on like you would with a new build so you will just have to measure. If anything you want them a little big. If they're too small the rest of the repair won't go well.

So now the new rings should stack up to the same length as the area that's been stripped. The holes should fit over the blank and the outside diameters should be ~1/16th or more bigger than the cork adjacent to the repair area.

Then next step is to pick the ugliest side of each ring and cut a slit between the hole and the outside. You're not cutting the ring in half just cutting through one wall of the doughnut.

Boil the cork. I don't remember how long the original poster said to do this, but I would think a half hour to an hour would be enough :?: :?: . After boiling, the cork will be flexible enough to carefully slide the blank through the slit. You'll need to have epoxy on the blank and some on the faces of the slit as well. Wrap the new cork very tightly with saran wrap to compress the slit closed tightly until the epoxy sets up.

So now the new cork is on the blank, but it's a little taller than the rest of the grip. Sand carefully until it's flush. Enjoy.

If you screw the pooch, you're out the cork and epoxy you bought (cork can be expensive), but, unless you killed the blank, professional repair won't be any more expensive than if you'd have taken it there first. If you do mess up the blank while stripping the cork, it will be under the grip where it can be repaired and hidden.

You're call. If you're a general fix it sort of person and take your time, I don't think it will be a huge deal. The only thing I'm doubtful of is amount of time to boil the cork. I also am wondering about gluing up the cork after boiling. I don't think the epoxy will bond if the cork's wet. I'll have to find that post again to confirm these two details.


EDIT: Found it
http://www.rodbuildingforum.com/index.p ... place+cork
Last edited by smalliesteve on Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:38 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Help repairing cork handle?

Postby jfrancho » Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:29 am

I agree. You could send it to St. Croix, or a local rod builder. I'd call St. Croix first, adn see what they say.
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Re: Help repairing cork handle?

Postby Too Busy » Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:50 am

And the final option is to fill the cracks with cork filler, available through most rod building supply companies. It works just like wood filler or spackle.

Fill the crack, let cure, sand smooth, go fishing. ;)
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Re: Help repairing cork handle?

Postby smalliesteve » Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:12 am

Just a heads up on mudhole's "cork filler" its just elmer's wood filler in golden oak color. Should be able to get it at Home Depot or similar if you go this route.
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Re: Help repairing cork handle?

Postby pathfinder1 » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:06 pm

WOW! That was fast, thanks for all the tips. I guess I will stop by home depot on the way home tonight. I am still going to call ST. Croix to see what the deal is from their point. I would like to get it done right.

Thanks again!! :)
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Re: Help repairing cork handle?

Postby jfrancho » Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:18 pm

And the final option is to fill the cracks with cork filler, available through most rod building supply companies. It works just like wood filler or spackle.


And not waterproof. It will eventually chip away. It won't offer any structural support either.

If you just want to fill small gaps it's fine, but you can use Elmer's Wood Filler in Golden Oak. That's what my builder recommends.
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Re: Help repairing cork handle?

Postby blake » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:50 pm

Stripping eyes and cork and replacing it with new is the best option. However an alternative is to glue the existing grip back together, then wrap the entire grip with cork tape. Obviously the diameter is going to increase and it won't look that pretty but it will function fine.
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Re: Help repairing cork handle?

Postby HookUp » Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:23 pm

blake wrote:then wrap the entire grip with cork tape..


Now that you bring up tape, RodWrap would work nicely.
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